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Mustang Chat Room / The Original Mustang Shop - eBay
« Last post by Simon on November 16, 2020, 02:26:48 PM »
Hi everyone. This is my first post and hopefully not my last. I am looking at purchasing a mustang from eBay and it is being sold by The Classic Mustang Shop. There is very little online I can find about them however they do sell quite a few imports across various online platforms, just cars and eBay for eg. Does anyone have experience that they are legitimate? I have had an inspection done on the car and all seems good but just thought I would reach out to those in the know. Appreciate any guidance. Regards Simon
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Re: 67 Coupe 289 Auto starting issue
« Last post by scollist on November 16, 2020, 01:52:05 PM »
From this 1965 diagram the relay would be on the Red-Blue (32) wire from the Ignition Switch to the Starter Relay (though most people call this the Starter Solenoid) - possibly even in place of the Starter Neutral Switch, which is exactly what the relay is emulating. 


The relay is standard-open, and is only energised when the Brake pedal is engaged - energising the brake light switch and therefore the relay become closed - enabling the connection from Ignition Switch to Starter Solenoid (presumably your two 'black wires' that are really dark blue with red stripe?).


I tried to find an equivalent diagram for 1967 Mustang, but the links I found want a free account created, so I didn't bother.


Maybe someone else has the diagram for 67 they can share? Or confirm it is still the same Red-Blue wire.


Electricals - only special people get the buzz!
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Re: Ignition timing total advance
« Last post by GEOFF289 on November 16, 2020, 12:36:14 PM »
What distributor is it?

I have done exactly what you describe with my MSD Pro Billet dissy. It came with various "spacers" I guess you'd call them that can be changed to limit the mechanical advance. Also different springs to control how early the mechanical comes in.

My GT40P heads don't like a lot of total and I found that even the lowest total these spacers provided was still too high with the initial where I wanted it to be. I found some aftermarket aluminium ones (standard MSD are plastic) that gave me some better options and I have one in it now that keeps the total to a level that works while allowing 14 degrees of initial which the car seems happy with.
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Re: 67 Coupe 289 Auto starting issue
« Last post by GEOFF289 on November 16, 2020, 12:29:35 PM »
I guess it would be good to figure it out but as Shane suggests in his two posts above, it's starting to look like its a deliberate mod, and might be worth considering keeping it as an anti theft measure.
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Re: Ignition timing total advance
« Last post by pmb0186 on November 16, 2020, 12:21:24 PM »
I will find out tonight
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Re: Ignition timing total advance
« Last post by HEVEN67 on November 16, 2020, 12:12:49 PM »
do you know how much total advance you have?
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Ignition timing total advance
« Last post by pmb0186 on November 16, 2020, 12:01:18 PM »
Has anyone played with their distributors total mechanical advance?
Mine has always pinged only in hot weather and something I've never got around to sorting.
If I wind the timing back anymore (retard) it runs poorly so not an option, so the answer is reduce the total advance.
I understand I'm going to find the attached inside and it can be turned around to reduce or increase total timing.
Has anyone done this ?
Did it work?
 
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Re: 67 Coupe 289 Auto starting issue
« Last post by Gabs64 on November 16, 2020, 11:42:32 AM »
I have nothing to compare but the the relay is 100% plugged into the factory loom that has to black wires from the loom. I couldn't quite work out the stripe on one of them.. The splice is deliberate though agree. Two additional wires have been added to that relay plug though. One going to ground and the other to the brake light switch wire that has bee spliced in. I am going to disconnect them tonight and see what happens.
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Re: 67 Coupe 289 Auto starting issue
« Last post by scollist on November 16, 2020, 10:45:33 AM »
I'm no expert, but it sounds deliberate to me.   There were no relays in 67 Mustangs as far as I know.
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Tech Torque Pre 1973 / Re: 67 Coupe 289 Auto starting issue
« Last post by Gabs64 on November 16, 2020, 09:15:07 AM »
Hi All thanks for your replies. I realise really tricky to diagnose over messages. I donít know the history of the car as it has been freshly imported and technically I am first owner here.Dash lights up, fuel gauge moves and indicators work but brake lights donít come on.Turning the key to start I get nothing. Hold the brake turn key starts. I can also start the car by turning the key and then bridging the solenoid and it ticks over without holding the brake. Interestingly if i unplug the dash bezel brake lights work when pedal pressed but still wont start normally. Very late last night I did find that one of the wires (Green) from the brake switch has been taped with the white and black stripe i that goes to the 5 pin solenoid near the fuse block. When I press the brake pedal I hear the relay click in so its supplying 12V to the circuit. I think that is where the issue is in the wiring that is not normal, itís definitely not factory. Not sure where that white wire originates from as it looks like it has been cut but i am guessing it should be either constant 12V or Switched 12V. Plans is to run a hot wire seperate from the switch to the relay and test that theory. P.S. what is that relay for?
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