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Title: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dingo80 on July 12, 2019, 05:14:48 PM
I tried searching but could not find it. Someone mentioned there was a mallory dizzy that would fit under the Maier Racing strut brace. It clashes with the current MSD dizzy I have so need to find a solution as I don't want to use spacers under the brace plates to shock towers. Can anyone confirm the Mallory dizzy by part number preferably? Hoping it will be compatible with my MSD 6AL spark box but if it doesn't, oh well. Just another thing to change in the world of modified cars.

Cars a 65 coupe just in case
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dwayne on July 12, 2019, 05:38:05 PM
Following this one, as I'll be running the same brace on mine.

I've got adjustable motor mounts and a crank trigger, so that gives me some wiggle room.

This MSD dizzy is only 6" high, so might be worth you having a look at:
https://www.holley.com/products/ignition/distributors/ford/pro-billet_distributors/parts/85824 (https://www.holley.com/products/ignition/distributors/ford/pro-billet_distributors/parts/85824)
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dingo80 on July 12, 2019, 05:48:08 PM
Thanks Dwayne. That's a good start as it only needs about 10-15mm to clear. Was trying to post pics but can't get them less than 250kB. Will try when I get home. Will do a measure up and see if that will solve it.

Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dwayne on July 12, 2019, 07:20:16 PM
Try this site for ousting pics:

https://postimages.org/
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dwayne on July 12, 2019, 07:24:58 PM
Thanks Dwayne. That's a good start as it only needs about 10-15mm to clear.

The crab dizzy is a full inch shorter than my msd pro billet, so will likely be the solution you (and I) need.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dingo80 on July 12, 2019, 07:42:36 PM
This is the issue. I will measure mine and see how it goes. Mines a pro-billet too I think.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: barnett468 on July 13, 2019, 11:14:51 AM
These braces don't interfere with any distributor.

(https://www.cjponyparts.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/c/tcppkgtwrb_2.429.jpg)
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dingo80 on July 13, 2019, 01:56:48 PM
Yep Barnett, I know of the TCP one but I don't personally like it and got the Maier one at a good price when I bought my rear springs and things.

So did some measuring Dwayne, and I have about 215mm between bottom of brace and base of dizzy. Assuming my engine mounts are pretty solid being fixed poly mount bushes from Chassisworks, I'm allowing for some engine movement of say 15mm, makes 200mm clear required. The crab cap you mentioned is just under 6" or 150mm so leaves a decent amount of room for play.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: shaunp on July 14, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
I used a Mallory on Astroboys / Ruff coupe's 65 with a 351 and maier brace no issue, also has a 6al
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dingo80 on July 15, 2019, 07:55:14 PM
I used a Mallory on Astroboys / Ruff coupe's 65 with a 351 and maier brace no issue, also has a 6al

Do you know which one Shaun? Seems to be no stock of the crab cap and it's around $650ish so cheaper options would be awesome also.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: booah on July 16, 2019, 08:19:35 AM
Have you thought about just chopping up the brace you have?

Or MikeMaierInc sells this DIY kit for those that don't fit the cookie cutter mods.

https://mikemaierinc.com/product/mustang/mustang-shock-tower-brace/
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dingo80 on July 16, 2019, 08:53:43 AM
I had thought of cutting the cross brace out, but I have not had the time to learn to weld yet, so by the time I cut the bar out, get someone to bend and reweld a new one and then get it repowdercoated, I figure I would be up for $4-500 which is new dizzy territory. If someone knows anyone in Perth who can replace the bar for me I would be happy to talk to them to see if it would be that expensive but not sure where to go. I reckon powder would be $100 odd alone.

Mike maier has has some nice stuff out now though Booah.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: booah on July 16, 2019, 09:16:03 AM
I live in Perth, will PM you.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: shaunp on July 16, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
Do you know which one Shaun? Seems to be no stock of the crab cap and it's around $650ish so cheaper options would be awesome also.

doent need to be the crab cap, was just like a ready to run one, like an old unilite type thing
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dwayne on July 16, 2019, 03:18:33 PM

I tried searching but could not find it. Someone mentioned there was a mallory dizzy that would fit under the Maier Racing strut brace. It clashes with the current MSD dizzy I have so need to find a solution as I don't want to use spacers under the brace plates to shock towers. Can anyone confirm the Mallory dizzy by part number preferably? Hoping it will be compatible with my MSD 6AL spark box but if it doesn't, oh well. Just another thing to change in the world of modified cars.

Cars a 65 coupe just in case
?

What's the part number on the MSD dizzy your currently have?  Mine is a pro-billet (#8455) which is 213mm tall, but I won't be ready to test fit the motor for another week or so.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: shaunp on July 16, 2019, 03:31:03 PM
Pro billet is too tall on a 67
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dwayne on July 16, 2019, 03:32:29 PM
Looks like I will be selling an unused MSD Pro Billet soon  :ouch:
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: shaunp on July 17, 2019, 07:47:14 AM
pretty sure it was something likes this Unilite but this a 351 unit  https://www.holley.com/products/ignition/distributors/unilite_distributors/parts/3755401#specs 
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dingo80 on July 17, 2019, 05:06:42 PM
That might just fit Shaun. 185mm roughly without coil wire boot allowance. Mine is a 351W and that Mallory is half the price of the MSD crab cap. Will have a chat to Booah first but thanks for everyone's input.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: shaunp on July 18, 2019, 10:25:18 AM
That might just fit Shaun. 185mm roughly without coil wire boot allowance. Mine is a 351W and that Mallory is half the price of the MSD crab cap. Will have a chat to Booah first but thanks for everyone's input.

On John's 65 I defiantly used a Mallory  with this brace and a 351, and it just clears. The dissy was one i had on Rodney's 408 in his 69, but we swapped it for an MSD. I used right angle plug leads. I think it was a ready to run Comp-sport  which they don't seem to make since Holly took them over but it looks pretty much the same as an old Unilite which has been around since the 70, when all you could buy was a Mallory dual pint or Uni light, they are quite small.
Title: Re: Maier racing strut brace clash
Post by: Dwayne on July 27, 2019, 04:50:03 PM
I've just dropped my motor and trans in place and I'll have 13mm clearance to my Maeir brace with the MSD dizzy (#8455) plugs on without the top cap. I can still get the leads and lid off, and also remove the dizzy with the brace installed.

I'm using stock height adjustable mounts as the 1/2" drop mounts fouled the sump on the stock crossmember.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wBfyqb0B/IMG-20190727-140200-822.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nzXsCYPG/IMG-20190727-140200-827.jpg)