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Title: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: StephenSLR on January 09, 2018, 09:51:40 AM
Spotted this online, is a good read, thought I'd share.

(https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/cp/black/800/600/s3/digital-cougar-assets/tradeuniquecars/gallery1712/south-african-holdens.jpg)

(https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/media/18696173/south-african-monaro-rear.jpg)

(https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/media/18696215/south-african-monaro-engine.jpg)

(https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/media/18696187/south-african-falcon-onroad-2.jpg)

(https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/media/18696194/south-african-falcon-engine-bay.jpg)

(https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/cp/black/800/600/s3/digital-cougar-assets/tradeuniquecars/gallery1712/south-african-fairmont-interior.jpg)

More pics and story here:

https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/feature-cars/1712/south-african-spec-exports-holden-monaro-chev-ss-and-ford-xy-gt?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018_01_08_UC&utm_term=list_uniquecars_newsletter

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Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: mwizz on January 09, 2018, 09:37:49 PM
I have seen one of the XY Fairmonts before but I have not seen a Chevrolet SS like this before. Love it.
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: scedd1 on January 10, 2018, 10:23:47 AM
In the article it mentioned that the utes went over as El Camino's.
Heres one back living in Toowoomba
(https://image.ibb.co/ck627R/SAM_0035.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/nH7Lu6/SAM_0037.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/jCAenR/SAM_0023.jpg)
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: StephenSLR on January 10, 2018, 11:57:07 AM
(https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/cp/black/800/600/s3/digital-cougar-assets/tradeuniquecars/gallery1712/south-african-holdens.jpg)

(https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/media/18696173/south-african-monaro-rear.jpg)

Spot the two peice bumpers on the Chev version with the joint in the middle.

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Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: Bucks on January 10, 2018, 12:20:54 PM
I cant believe some of the cars Australia exported in the 70s, Check out this Mazda Road pacer (HOLDEN HJ 1974) with a twin rotor 1.3-litre 13B rotary engine in it.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/mazda-roadpacer-27241

(https://res.cloudinary.com/carsguide/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto,t_cg_hero_low/v1/editorial/dp/images/uploads/Mazda-Roadpacer-W.jpg)
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: scedd1 on January 10, 2018, 01:40:24 PM
When we went to the memorial at The Bridge over the River Kwai in Thailand, we spotted this Bogandore. (Notice Bogandore drivers cant park properly in any country  :lmao: :lmao:)
(https://image.ibb.co/ck2sP6/thailand_038.jpg)
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: StephenSLR on January 10, 2018, 01:42:33 PM
in Thailand, we spotted this Bogandore.

Plenty of those in Europe as Opels and just like in the pic, the grilles just don't fit properly. I also noticed a lot of Opel Geminis.

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Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: mwizz on January 10, 2018, 08:49:21 PM
(https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/cp/black/800/600/s3/digital-cougar-assets/tradeuniquecars/gallery1712/south-african-holdens.jpg)

(https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/media/18696173/south-african-monaro-rear.jpg)

Spot the two peice bumpers on the Chev version with the joint in the middle.

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Good pick up.
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: mwizz on January 10, 2018, 08:49:50 PM
I cant believe some of the cars Australia exported in the 70s, Check out this Mazda Road pacer (HOLDEN HJ 1974) with a twin rotor 1.3-litre 13B rotary engine in it.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/mazda-roadpacer-27241

(https://res.cloudinary.com/carsguide/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto,t_cg_hero_low/v1/editorial/dp/images/uploads/Mazda-Roadpacer-W.jpg)


Now I've seen everything
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: shaunp on January 10, 2018, 09:13:27 PM
Originally Holdens that went to SA were Holdens, and were advertised as being suitable for SA as they were built to suit tough Australian conditions. The Chev badging came about due to  the Australian governments stand on Apartheid, Holden thought there would be a back lash to the Oz brand name and loose sale, so they put Chev badges on them and altered the look. 
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: mwizz on January 10, 2018, 09:22:48 PM
Originally Holdens that went to SA were Holdens, and were advertised as being suitable for SA as they were built to suit tough Australian conditions. The Chev badging came about due to  the Australian governments stand on Apartheid, Holden thought there would be a back lash to the Oz brand name and loose sale, so they put Chev badges on them and altered the look. 

Thanks Shaun that is good to know
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: StephenSLR on January 10, 2018, 10:43:02 PM
Originally Holdens that went to SA were Holdens, and were advertised as being suitable for SA as they were built to suit tough Australian conditions. The Chev badging came about due to  the Australian governments stand on Apartheid, Holden thought there would be a back lash to the Oz brand name and loose sale, so they put Chev badges on them and altered the look.

The article goes into the whole apartheid thing. From what I gathered, the Holden HT Monaro 308 GTS was exported and sold in S.A as a Holden Monaro GTS whereas the Chevrolet SS was the Holden shell assembled in S.A and fitted with a Chev. regalia & drivetrain. All SA cars had front white reflectors & rear red reflectors added.

From another source: the Chevs & the Holdens were sold side by side for several years in SA, but through different dealership networks.  In similar fashion to the USA, where Pontaic, Chev, Buick etc. all had separate networks, in SA they had one lot selling say Chev & Vauxhall, while the other sold Opel & Holden etc.

They sold Holdens (both fully imported & locally assembled) from FB to HT (& maybe HG) & they sold Chevs from HK to HJ.

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Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: shaunp on January 11, 2018, 11:45:11 AM
They sent Statesmans over as well they were re-badged as Chev 350 and had a different grill
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: StephenSLR on January 11, 2018, 11:58:05 AM
They sent Statesmans over as well they were re-badged as Chev 350 and had a different grill

They sure did, check this out, have you heard this tune before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1wvQ7ERXhY

I believe the original was Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Chevrolet which we ripped off for our Holden ads.

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Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: shaunp on January 11, 2018, 12:21:55 PM
LOL
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: j1autotech on January 12, 2018, 03:20:12 PM
When I lived in South Africa I had a XY Fairmont GT as my everyday car and ran straight pipes just for the pure sound of it.
Used to try and recreate the pic of heading down the Hume at top speed while on the Hwy to Sun City, power steering in those cars are scary at that speed.

J1

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/j1autotech/small_SunCityWavePool6.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/j1autotech/media/small_SunCityWavePool6.jpg.html)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/j1autotech/GT_351.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/j1autotech/media/GT_351.jpg.html)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/j1autotech/KelvinPowerStation034.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/j1autotech/media/KelvinPowerStation034.jpg.html)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/j1autotech/GTsecurity.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/j1autotech/media/GTsecurity.jpg.html)
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: StephenSLR on January 12, 2018, 03:47:15 PM
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/j1autotech/GTsecurity.jpg)

You're a lot darker than I had imagined, nice tan.

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Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: mcarnage59 on January 12, 2018, 03:53:23 PM
How's the magazine on the shooter!!
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: robster on January 12, 2018, 08:16:24 PM
Camo pose/r part of a calendar shoot was it ?   :smile01:
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: Macka on February 08, 2018, 11:22:40 PM
Hey, I know that car.  The J1 special.

You'd be interested that I registered another one for a bloke the other day, ask me when I see you next.
Title: Re: South African-Spec Exports: Holden Monaro (Chev SS) and Ford XY GT
Post by: jiffy on February 08, 2018, 11:35:07 PM
Crap camouflage - I could see him no drama...