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Offline ag71

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Export brace
« on: October 21, 2020, 04:33:30 PM »
Hi all am thinking of fitting a Drake chrome export brace on my '66 coupe just wondering if anyone else has fitted these and did you cut off the existing metal pieces off the
shock towers or simply just fit the new brace straight over the top and hide it underneath ?
Have been informed sometimes they are a bugger to fit as well.

I will probably get some chrome shock tower caps to match as well.

Anyone got any pics they can post of their setups ?

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2020, 04:55:30 PM »
Definitely worth fitting and removing the old sections is a personal choice.

Fitting is usually only a challenge if your shock towers have 'collapsed' in. Putting the car up on jack stands overnight is often enough to open them back up again to get the brace fitted.


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Re: Export brace
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2020, 08:10:54 PM »
Ditto what Dwayne says.
The trick I learnt with both my cars, when installing or removing the export brace, is to jack the front up and place stands under the chassis rails about in line with the bulkhead so that the front end with the weight of the motor is cantilevered and hangs forward. By next day I'd have just that little bit of added clearance due to sag that I wouldn't scrape the paint on the front of the plenum adjacent where the 4 large brace bolts are.

But if the shock towers have moved inwards over time, common on high mileage cars, then the trick is to jack them apart again as the export brace being a fixed shape with limited clearances at bolt locations won't drop into place otherwise.
A worthwhile mod though.

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2020, 08:24:46 PM »
Same here.
Fitted easily in my 64 coupe after jacking up the car a little bit. Old braces removed, just the end is still there underneath the new one.
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Re: Export brace
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2020, 10:14:58 PM »
DJ, the after market Export brace profile is designed to seat snuggly in the original fixed tower extension.....no need to cut..
Place you car on a set of jack stands on the forward and rear chassis rails to ease the rigidity of the car.
You may need to use a podgy bar to gently manipulate it into place......
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Re: Export brace
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2020, 12:23:38 PM »
Ditto above.
Check the fit by laying the brace gently down in place to see whether bolt holes line up or not.
And just watch that back edge / middle section against the paintwork, in my experience they can be pretty tight there. I always put a few layers of masking tape along there to protect the paintwork while installing or uninstalling the brace.

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2020, 02:05:39 PM »
If you are putting the export brace in you might want to consider adding the Monte Carlo bar as well, you'll notice the difference.

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2020, 02:54:56 PM »
Ahhhh....very good call Mick66.....as you rightfully say....you definitely notice the difference....
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Re: Export brace
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2020, 03:13:09 PM »
thanks all for the replies its given me some ideas and cheers for the pic Mick, I will think about the Monte Caro bar as well,

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2020, 05:13:33 PM »
Hi all so I got my Drake export brace and haven't been able to fit it, so I jacked up under the front crossmember and there's still not enough room to fit it, I'd say the towers have moved in over time as usual on these, I want to know if I jack it up overnight and leave on jackstands hoping this will spread it a little do I place them under the front lower control arms on the inner edge of the arms ?

I read some guys recommend to use a porta power which I don't have access to and probably wouldn't be confident enough to do myself.

If I still have dramas and am not able to fit it what sort of money would I be looking at to get someone in Sydney to fit this up for me and can anyone recommend someone they have used before ?

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2020, 06:29:19 PM »
Had to put a hydraulic jack and a length of timber across the inner guards to spread my one far enough apart to get the brace to fit/

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2020, 10:06:15 PM »
Hi AG71,
It is probably more counter productive to place the jack stands on the forward chassis rail box sections and alleviate all the weight from the coil springs, UCA's and LCA's and let the front end 'sag' slightly under it's own weight.....
From there, fit the fire wall brace bolts loosely and see where the misalignment on the shock tower connections occurs.
It could be that one shock tower connection may align and the other tower may need ' manipulating.
Once you gauge where the error occurs it could be a simple matter of relieving the weight on either tower with a trolley jack.
As a reminder your pride and joy may have taken a hit at some stage of her life so there maybe some underlying chassis alignment issues that might be giving you grief.
Feel free to send some photo's of the dry fit stage and the brains trust on here can have a better idea
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Re: Export brace
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2020, 05:07:39 PM »
Cheers for the extra info I'm going to try jack it up and leave on jack stands next weekend and see if that gives me anymore wiggle room I will keep you posted.

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2020, 07:27:46 PM »
I'm no expert and my own brace went in to my '66 with very little trouble, ditto the Monte bar, but I would have thought to spread the towers further apart you need to jack it up under the engine cross member and let it hang there rather than under the chassis rails.

If you support it under the rails I would have thought the weight of the engine would tend to bring the towers in which doesn't sound like what you need.

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2020, 08:31:24 PM »
Hi Geoff,
As the cross member attachments points are on the front chassis rails I guess the result may be the same for how the towers react when the wheels are off the ground with weight off of the suspension system.....I always felt a lot safer with the car on jack stands on the rails than centrally jacked on the cross member...
But you could very well be correct about engine weight influence...great point mate
I was referencing my build where I had the car on leveled Jack stands and dry fitted a number of components including export brace and monte-carlo Bar, chassis rail connectors, minus the engine and suspension. Once the car was rolling and engine back in the Brace and MC went in snug as a bug in a rug.....same as when she was free standing........Maybe my EB negated tower movement???
Personally for the sake of changing out original EB for an aftermarket one, a porta power adjustment may create dramas elsewhere, like panel gap tolerances etc.......might does not equal right......
Looking Forward to see how AG finds a solution.
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Re: Export brace
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2020, 04:56:33 PM »
Another update, wow who would have thought this would be so hard to fit I went through every step and tried a few variances and stuff me no way can I get this to fit. I have spoken to a repairer I know who has fitted a few before and he's going to do it for me so all good I'm happy to pay and have it fitted I'm over it :ouch: I will post a pic in due course.

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2020, 08:05:42 PM »
They are a PITA to fit/remove but worth the trouble.
Glad you'll soon have it sorted.

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Re: Export brace
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2020, 01:10:03 PM »
Had to put a hydraulic jack and a length of timber across the inner guards to spread my one far enough apart to get the brace to fit/
This is your answer if you don't have a porta power or you can do the same with a mechanical jack and 3 hands, lol.
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