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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2019, 05:16:23 PM »

I have a couple of questions that you maybe able to help me with.

i am installing borgeson power steering box. When i order new steering parts do i order Manual or power steering set up? The original car was manual.

I have both original 6 cylinder drum spindles and also have 1970 v8 disc spindles (pictured above). Which spindles should i go with for v8 engine and disc brake upgrade? The main differences i see are different tie rod size and 3 vs 4 bolt pattern.

Appreciate your assistance.

The Borgeson kit is designed to be used with manual steer setup. A car with original power steering has to have the drag link changed to a manual one.

If you're sticking with original style brake and suspension setup use the V8 spindles.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2019, 07:52:25 PM »
Great work, loving the build.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2019, 10:25:21 AM »
Thank Geoff for the advice, very helpful.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2019, 06:51:16 PM »
nice work so far.....
There is a great booklet called Boss 302 Racing modifications aimed primarily at making stock modifications to 69's to put them on the track back in the day.....relatively simple things like Shelby Drop, Shock tower gussets/ cross member gussets and plenty of various race inspired and simple mods aimed at strengthening and stiffening the front end etc....Nothing over the top $$$$ wise so maybe well worth considering before engine bay paint work......Results will be evident in the end...
I did a lot of the same mods to my 67 during the initial stages of my resto, including chassis rail connectors to remove the old ford sway and roll....

Following bare metal prep and epoxy prime, I used a sound deadener product called Lizard Skin for the undercarriage/ wheel arch areas and a separate LS Ceramic coating for all internal areas, followed by Dynamat......This stuff is tough...…and the car is super tight and quiet..
I went with RRS R&P LHD steering and pump assembly/RRS LCA's/ RRS adjustable srtuts....no complaints thus far
OH yeah, go the Hopper Stoppers so you have local support with a solid product....
all the best bro....
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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2019, 09:49:19 AM »
Thanks Megzee67 for your input  :thumb:

My plan for improving handling are

*shelby 1 inch drop
*sub frame connectors
*shock tower gusset
*1 piece export brace
*reinforced lower cross member

My intention for the car are daily driver so the above should be enough.

In addition to the above i'm planning on installing the roller bearing spring perches, idler arm from Open Track Racing and the Total Control Product Strut Rods.
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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2019, 06:44:49 PM »
Latest photos from panel shop.

















Lets see if thats a bad rust repair under there?

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2019, 06:50:38 PM »
Quick side note.

I was at a mates country holiday house the other week helping him clean out an old shed. I saved a couple of rush tools that he was going to throw out. i liked them as they looked old.

I soaked this old wrench in evorust and then gave it a quick wire brush. To my surprise the wrench was made by Ford.



Anyone ever seen tools made by Ford before?


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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2019, 09:13:06 AM »
The final stage of getting the body back to metal happened on the weekend.



Can't wait to see it sometime this week. To me this is now the start of the build

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2019, 10:49:27 AM »
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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2019, 08:03:44 PM »
Well done, great progress.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2019, 03:50:13 PM »
Some more photos after blasting











Couple of areas to repair









Epoxy scheduled for completion in the next few days. Then metal work will begin.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2019, 08:16:17 PM »
lookin great…..no jaw dropping rust surprises
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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2019, 09:39:27 AM »
Thx Megzee67

Only 2 rust repairs, rear wheel well in the pictures above and the battery shelf in the engine bay.

Should not take too long to knock the body straight. The one area that may take some effort is the trunk. The original fitment was not great so the lid does not sit straight. it will need some cutting and filling to square it up.

hopefully will post photos in next couple of days of the body in epoxy,

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2019, 10:02:38 AM »
Body has first quick epoxy coat.



rust area where the battery goes that needs repairing



outer shock tower braces ready to be welded in.



Boot lid stripped ready for epoxy


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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2019, 12:37:23 PM »
nice progress......Just a small tip before you weld in the shock tower gussets...….Cut the corner off of each lower gusset corner, only 8mm x 8mm to allow yourself to spray a coating product into the area behind the gusset once it is fully welded.
Otherwise this becomes an inaccessible void, and the welding process will leave bare steel in the area.
I picked this up when I did my dry fit...Hope it makes sense..
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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2019, 06:41:10 PM »
Thx Megzee67, great idea. Will take up your suggestion.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2019, 05:13:25 PM »
Body repairs have started. 2 sections cut out ready to repair




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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2019, 09:19:23 PM »
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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2019, 02:32:13 PM »
I swapped a T5 for AOD in my 66 a year ago.  After checking out the options bought a totally rebuilt unit from Lentech.  They will upgrade to your specs, and have options which supposedly eliminate a couple of weak spots the AOD was known for.
I very pleased with the trans, drives very smooth.

Lentech (Canada) rebuilt AOD street cruiser. Model AOD-CRS. 12” non lock converter.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2019, 02:54:44 PM »
Re AOD you also want to see this...  important info...

•Try to avoid pre-1988 models without rear-lube enhancement. It is likely that planet bushing damage may have already occurred, mandating expensive new gear-train parts as well as an updated output shaft.
•1992-93 E and F series trucks (those with AOD’s and not E4OD’s) contain the strongest production AOD transmissions. Included is the two-inch wide overdrive band (part of the Motorsport Wide Ratio Kit, which is highly recommended for full-throttle use of overdrive or towing in overdrive) and the now-famous "A" overdrive servo.
•All Thunderbird SC supercharged V-6 transmissions contain the "A" servo (its original application) and the strong H.O. V-8 style clutches but still use the 1.5-inch overdrive band.
•In situations other than those listed above, any 1988 or later V-8 AOD transmission (steer clear of the base V-6 units) should prove adequate for most AOD buildups. Base V-6 AOD units have the weakest "C" servo, and most V-8 units to include the H.O. Mustang have the "B" servo.

Also be aware that in 1991, production began on the AODE which is the computer controlled AOD, and was used from 1991-2004. So there was some overlap in production.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2019, 02:57:15 PM »
great pics,following with interest.

67 gt fastback s code
16 gt fastback

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2019, 10:11:14 AM »
Thanks Marshall

What diff ratio and wheel size are you running?

What is it like cruising on freeways?

Reason i ask as i have a 65 fastback with a c4 and 347 windsor and it does not like cruising on freeways at 110km for very long. I've 3.00 in the diff. Did the fit of the AOD require body modification?

Drive-ability is important to me as I like doing week long road trips once a year.


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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2019, 02:18:45 PM »
Does Marshall's car have modifications?

Check this - https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/1966-pro-touring-mustang-marshall-perron

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2019, 06:30:17 PM »
Seeing as you're doing major work to the car, can move standard floor crossmember back to correct position for the AOD box.

ShaunP has done this a couple of times.

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Re: 69 Convertible Project by HRTZ65
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2019, 10:26:44 AM »
That's a fantastic car in the link. lots of great changes without changing the classic style of the car.

Thanks for heads up Dwayne. Does anyone have the measurements or photos of how the cross member needs to be altered? I won't have the engine/AOD ready to fit until after the underneath is done.

 

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