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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2016, 06:28:33 AM »
Wilwood RADIAL calipers with the large discs AND the thickest discs they sell which are around 1 1/8" . The thinner 1" discs are more prone to heat fade and warping.

You also need the proper pad material for your particular app.

You also want racing brake fluid . I will post it later.

That's the issue I have with the Wilwood Dynapro kit. The rotor thickness is only .81.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2016, 06:56:03 AM »
I wouldn't want .81 thickness 12" discs on a car I'm tracking. They'll heat fade pretty quickly if you're giving it some. So you have a couple options, either think rotors but bigger, or thicker rotors.
Unfortunately thicker rotors will start to add to the price VERY quickly as I'm sure you've found already.
What thickness are the rotors the trans-am cars are running?

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2016, 08:15:50 AM »
The Australian Trans-Am cars and the Street or Track setup are running a 1 1/8" rotor.

At this stage I think I'll just bite the bullet and copy the Australian Trans-Am cars. I really only want to buy brakes once. It will ease the financial pain too as I'll be able to buy the calipers, rotors, master cylinder and hubs over 6 months or so.
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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2016, 08:28:05 AM »
I think the SOT uses 1 1/4 rotors

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2016, 08:40:39 AM »
You are correct, my mistake. Really makes the standard Wilwood calipers look undersized.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2016, 09:27:26 AM »
I have used Penrite 10 Tenths 600 with no issues.

Tilton TSR 1 Supreme is great stuff also.

If you want to be more exotic (good enough for F1) i have used Endless RF 650 in a couple of cars and it was fantastic.

If you want to be SUPER exotic  :lol: go with Castrol SRF but its stupidly expensive, $120+ a bottle...  :thud:

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2016, 09:39:16 AM »
This is the setup Cobra Automotive run on all there cars and they are no idiots.

http://store.cobraautomotive.com/100-3000-competition-12-front-brake-kit-1965-73-specify-street-or-race-compound-pads/

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2016, 09:56:18 AM »
My boss uses the Castrol SRF on his group C car, I've got no idea why. Almost brings me to tears when we bleed  the system and see $100 worth of fluid thrown out.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2016, 10:09:42 AM »
My boss uses the Castrol SRF on his group C car, I've got no idea why. Almost brings me to tears when we bleed  the system and see $100 worth of fluid thrown out.

 :lmao:

Yeah, its over the top expensive and over kill for anything other than a full blown race car. Only thing it has over most other fluids is the higher wet boiling point. So i guess if your changing out the fluid a lot than it's a bit of a waste.

But then again if it's being left in for a longer period it's probably worth the extra $$ for the higher wet point.

Endless RF 650 is brilliant at half the price. Good enough for the Mercedes Petronas F1 team.  :thumb:
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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2016, 10:24:13 AM »
So how much is the Woody T/A set up? I have also seen them do it with the standard Ford Kelsey hayes calipers but on big discs they must put a spacer in the caliper.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2016, 12:09:38 PM »
I haven't been given the price yet. Woody will basically sell you the hubs and provide you with the part numbers for the calipers and rotors.

These are the calipers they run:

https://m.summitracing.com/parts/wil-140-11857

These are the rotors:

https://m.summitracing.com/parts/pwr-ar-8210xpr

Basically you'll be in it for $1500 plus cost of the hubs and modified stub axels.

Hopefully I'll get some prices this week and let people know if there's any interest.


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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2016, 12:27:50 PM »
Ok the stub axle has the steering arm at an altered height so they dont bump steer on pre 67 cars. Woody used to get John Greene to do them, and crack test them. Greeny has a jig he has been doing them for 25 years.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2016, 05:52:08 PM »
I have used Penrite 10 Tenths 600 with no issues.

...other than the cam gears explodng and the hydraulic throw out bearing leaking and the distributor not having any adjustment and the parking brake failing so my mustang smashed into our brand new $90,000 diesel range rover that the wife put gasoline in and... :lmao:

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2016, 06:06:23 PM »
...other than the cam gears explodng and the hydraulic throw out bearing leaking and the distributor not having any adjustment and the parking brake failing so my mustang smashed into our brand new $90,000 diesel range rover that the wife put gasoline in and... :lmao:

Its been a rough year..   :thud:

May have deveopled a drinking problem now though  :lmao:

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2016, 02:25:47 AM »
Its been a rough year..   :thud:

May have deveopled a drinking problem now though  :lmao:

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2016, 05:20:46 PM »
Give Race Products a call too.

They do some very sexy stuff..  :thumb:

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2016, 07:07:41 PM »
Race Products sure do some good looking gear.

I've been in contact with Alistair from Raven Motorsport and apparently he has a few different setups that have been removed from Group N, TCM and Trans-Am cars. So hopefully he can peice together a few options and give me some prices by the end of the week.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2016, 07:44:20 PM »
Race Products sure do some good looking gear.

I've been in contact with Alistair from Raven Motorsport and apparently he has a few different setups that have been removed from Group N, TCM and Trans-Am cars. So hopefully he can peice together a few options and give me some prices by the end of the week.
Woody uses those race products watts links  in the T/A cars. Sounds like you may get a deal on the brakes.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2016, 08:10:04 PM »
Woody uses those race products watts links  in the T/A cars. Sounds like you may get a deal on the brakes.

They are very nice. A mate has one in his XY

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2016, 09:43:21 PM »
They are pretty cheap to like $700 or something

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2016, 10:01:02 PM »
The peg adjustable watts are $968, the screw adjustable are significantly more. I'm planning on putting the Mike Maier panhard bar under my car for cost, simplicity and ease of installation.

Maybe we should start a track/handling orientated thread where all this stuff can be discussed. It sounds like there's a wealth of knowledge on here.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2016, 09:22:44 AM »
The peg adjustable watts are $968, the screw adjustable are significantly more. I'm planning on putting the Mike Maier panhard bar under my car for cost, simplicity and ease of installation.

Maybe we should start a track/handling orientated thread where all this stuff can be discussed. It sounds like there's a wealth of knowledge on here.
I'm pretty keen to run the peg adjust one on mine but at this point I just want get it going. I need to go and look one at Woody's shop to see what space you still have for exhausts though.  good idea on the Handling tread I reckon. Another point on using the XF uprights on your car is that they a 3/8 taller so they add some camber curve as well.

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2016, 01:15:25 PM »
I'm pretty keen to run the peg adjust one on mine but at this point I just want get it going. I

I thought it was going....again!  :thud:

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2016, 02:22:24 PM »
I thought it was going....again!  :thud:

No mate far from it, getting it ready for some custom headers to be made, to clear the RHD Australian Falcon steering box. have to drop the new engine and fresh toploader in it, but need to finish off the right hand drive A/C set up first. Once the pipes are on I'll paint it and get it runing on a 750 DP until me and Boofhead finish building the 8 throttle body injection for it. The ECU is made just have to piece together the other bits

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Re: Best front brakes under $2000 for 15" wheels
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2016, 05:44:04 PM »
I've already got Global West upper and lower control arms but I guess a bit of extra camber won't hurt.

I'm going to start a track orientated thread now. Hopefully it will promote more discussion on anything track based and handling related.

 

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